Engine performance

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Re: Engine performance

Post by Martin » 05 Mar 2018, 21:17

As you can see Gilly - Douglas spends a lot of time on the water, Not so sure it's down to the size of the boat or weight, more down to his location and retirement ?? :D
I on the other hand live "very inland" and have less hrs on the water than Douglas probabaly does in a Month. :lol:

What i actually try and achieve when i start the questioning is a comparison of opinion. On one hand You have Douglas saying 6hp is fine for the f-rib 330, on the other hand most of the replies have been a call for more "power to spare".
Yes, the 9.8hp is 10kg heavier than the yamaha 6hp, but if you can lift the 330 frib, then you can lift the heavier outboard surely ?

Do you want to buy one small outboard only to discover that you wanted a bigger outboard after all ? - ....... If you have money to spare (incase the 2nd larger outboard is required ) , plenty of storage space to keep the 2nd outboard - or no intention of carrying extra bodies ever, no towing the kids in ringo's , no going out in slightly heavy seas, then yes - i'm sure a 6hp would do you (possibly) :LMT

measure twice, cut once.... imo, buy the right thing from the start.
A 6hp - imo, will have a lot less resale vaue than a 9.8/9.9/15hp ... the 9.8 to 20hp portable range is such a valuable outboard, everyone and their dog wants it.
If weight really is your thing, have a look at a 2stroke. I have a (not for sale) 9hp 1976 Suzuki DT that goes like hell, weighs nothing but unfortunately isn't very easy on the ear & it drinks like father Ted ohyeh

Take into account the cc of an engine too when looking to purchae, there are some substantial differences between 9.8 & 9.9 motors,
Again, different high torque or standard 9.9hp
9.9 & 15hp same/similar weight but more gee gee's
9.9-15-20hp similar weight, huge hp difference.....

Food for thought buddy....

ps... i started with a 2stroke 9hp, i then bought the 15hp suzuki 4 stroke for power and silence..... I then bought the 20hp for....
Power and fuel economy! :thud


Knowing what i know now, I'd have bought the frib 375 and the 20hp right at the beginning, not because its/they're any better than anything else.... It's because they're better for me and my circumstance. But i could have saved myself a few grand on the way...


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Re: Engine performance

Post by Paul B » 05 Mar 2018, 23:26

mattswan2512 wrote:I have a 330 as ive previously said and i borrowed martins 1970 sonething (i think) suzuki 9.9.....in scotland and i was faster than a honwave with a 15 on the back and that was with a spatk issue too...dont go under 9.9 hp or you will not be happy.....why struggle with power and fast current if you dont need too....i promise you 9.9 will deliver what you need and more with a 330....

I get light is portable but thet are manageable at 10hp just get 2 stroke as they are sooooooo much lighter but yes granted a bit more thirsty.....
Narrr mate you wasn’t faster :lol: , pound for pound my set up was quicker, :Boxsmile firstly I had 30 litres of fuel on board plus 10 litres of fresh water, camping gear and most importantly my Lardy arse at over 16st ( 104kg) compared to your skinny southern arse , you only just got away from a slow speed to planning speeds, :lol: :lol: but once at full speed I had you just :rofl

But on a serious note, my thoughts would be at least a 9-10hp engine for the original post

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Re: Engine performance

Post by Cliff » 06 Mar 2018, 09:42

Here's my two pennorth and I know nowt about boats yet (but I'm a quick learner :pump ) These were my considerations when buying the engine. Can I lift it on my own? :thumbsup will it have the power to get my blood pumping and also get me out of trouble if needed? :thumbsup . Is it quiet enough for me to enjoy the experience without bursting my eardrums? :thumbsup . Can I afford it... :rofl only just, but it will hold it's value and give years of reliable service, which to me is worth the extra few bob. It's the same with cars and bikes, :drive if you have the extra power, you don't have to use it, and you're not ripping the guts out of an underpowered engine all the time. :waterski
P.S. Martin :cheers It was Father Jack not Father Ted who was the fecking drinker :rofl (best comedy ever)
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Re: Engine performance

Post by mattswan2512 » 06 Mar 2018, 21:43

Paul B wrote:
mattswan2512 wrote:I have a 330 as ive previously said and i borrowed martins 1970 sonething (i think) suzuki 9.9.....in scotland and i was faster than a honwave with a 15 on the back and that was with a spatk issue too...dont go under 9.9 hp or you will not be happy.....why struggle with power and fast current if you dont need too....i promise you 9.9 will deliver what you need and more with a 330....

I get light is portable but thet are manageable at 10hp just get 2 stroke as they are sooooooo much lighter but yes granted a bit more thirsty.....
Narrr mate you wasn’t faster :lol: , pound for pound my set up was quicker, :Boxsmile firstly I had 30 litres of fuel on board plus 10 litres of fresh water, camping gear and most importantly my Lardy arse at over 16st ( 104kg) compared to your skinny southern arse , you only just got away from a slow speed to planning speeds, :lol: :lol: but once at full speed I had you just :rofl

But on a serious note, my thoughts would be at least a 9-10hp engine for the original post
I had a 20 ltr jerrycan of fuel and a 22ltr fuel tank.....plus camping gear firewood etc etc and u know the truth paul at full speed i was just pulling from ya.....be interesting to see what my 15 is like at full chat on the back this year as long as it bloody works :lol: this calls for a speed test :yay yes granted tho im only 12.9 stone or their abouts but with the extra hp i think the Frib will win out again this year :lol:
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Re: Engine performance

Post by Paul B » 06 Mar 2018, 22:32

mattswan2512 wrote:
Paul B wrote:
mattswan2512 wrote:
I had a 20 ltr jerrycan of fuel and a 22ltr fuel tank.....plus camping gear firewood etc etc and u know the truth paul at full speed i was just pulling from ya.....be interesting to see what my 15 is like at full chat on the back this year as long as it bloody works :lol: this calls for a speed test :yay yes granted tho im only 12.9 stone or their abouts but with the extra hp i think the Frib will win out again this year :lol:
Ohh I didn’t mention the 12lt fuel tank as well, :lol: :lol: There wasn’t much to choose between us mate, however I’ve no chance this year, bigger heavier boat and same engine, :IANW

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Re: Engine performance

Post by mattswan2512 » 07 Mar 2018, 19:37

I am only kidding paul, speed means nothing on the WWA its so beautifull where you live that the only speed that makes sense is slow.....very jealouse...
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