Taking a SIB abroad

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Taking a SIB abroad

Post by Andy W » 28 Apr 2018, 16:43

Hi I am planning a road trip to Crete in the summer with my family. It is an extended holiday and I am visiting family.
We will be staying at a place called Milatos about 200M from a little marina. I am told there is no charge for using the marina or slip and that I need to get a "paper" from the coast guard before using my boat.
I have a 1970s Lomac Sib, 3.5m and a choice of two outboards, Merc 9.8 and Chrysler 20HP both of a similar vintage.
The boat is insured and I have extended my cover this year for Europe. What isn't clear to me is whether I need to obtain an ICC. Some people are telling me yes I do, others tell me for up to certain HP I do not. I am struggling to find an official source of this information.
A document I found here suggests that ICC is not required for under 25HP but the source is 4 years or so old.
http://www.flowboat.ee/en/wp-content/up ... -UNION.pdf
Anyone got any direct experiance of taking a small boat to Greek waters or know where I can find the correct information from an official souce?
I am not looking for advice like, "you'll be alright just smile" or "you should just get your ICC then you know you will be sorted" I can work these out for my self. I guess the info is out there on the net somewhere but it is probably in Greek!!

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Re: Taking a SIB abroad

Post by Martin » 29 Apr 2018, 19:43

Hi Andy, I’ll be quite honest.. I don’t know :shame
Giving a reply will at least keep the topic bumped to the top for you, hopefully someone will come up with the info you require

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Re: Taking a SIB abroad

Post by Paul » 29 Apr 2018, 21:47

Andy W
I've taken a sib to France and Spain over a number of years and yes it's a ball-ache checking on the local boating laws which differ from country to country and they're all supposed to be in the EU :thud utter ballcocks :-x
You'll have to do lots of web searching and gather the latest regulations I'm afraid as they're constantly changing :roll:
Various countries have length limits, OB hp limits, skipper certificates etc.
Here's one link to get you started if you've not already found it http://www.rya.org.uk/knowledge-advice/ ... rwork.aspx

One thing I'd recommend from past experience is:
Register your boat on the Small Ships Register (SSR) so it's recorded in the UK.
Being a very small craft I laminated the Ensign and stuck it to the transom ..... being unable to 'fly' the Ensign ....... which prohibited the boarding or confiscation of any British craft that is registered in the UK (hence the SSR) ;-)
Carry your insurance certificate (laminated) some countries say it's got to be in the local language but in fact that's not so ...... you have it, they have to translate it at their cost ;-)
If you have an original bill of sale showing the VAT paid then laminate it and produce it ........ if it's second hand with no VAT or bill of sale ...... it's registered on the SSR and 'flying the Ensign so cannot be confiscated ;-)
As you can see it's a right old carry on :roll: :thud

All the best buddy :thumbsup
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Re: Taking a SIB abroad

Post by chris moody » 30 Apr 2018, 18:02

If you are an RYA member, phone the RYA and ask them if you need an ICC, and what other documents you need, specifically for Crete.
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