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Post by Cumbria » 23 Mar 2019, 14:45

Hi

Where on boat do u tie it up and what u carry it in as air floor

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Re: Anchor

Post by Roy54 » 23 Mar 2019, 16:26

I have mine tied off to a cleat on the bow then the line and anchor in a bucket which stands in the front locker. I think most of the lads that have air floors tend to use the soft" trug" type container to prevent any accidental damage.

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Re: Anchor

Post by ChrisParish » 23 Mar 2019, 19:34

Roy is quite right. A lot of us use the flexible “trug” style buckets like this one:
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They have the advantage that they are flexible and deform to fit in the bow.
I jam mine right up in the bow and tie it to the ropes around the perimeter.
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Re: Anchor

Post by Cumbria » 24 Mar 2019, 08:28

As you all know I have no idea , could someone post a picture of where tie off anchor

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Re: Anchor

Post by ChrisParish » 24 Mar 2019, 08:56

The end of your anchor rope needs to be fastened to the d-loops inside the bow of your boat:
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When you deploy the anchor you want it to be attached to the handle under the bow:
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The way I do this is I have a carabeena attached to the end of the painter (the blue rope that comes attached to the bow handle when you buy the boat). When I have let out my anchor rope to the length I want I tie a loop in the anchor rope using an overhand knot like this:
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Then I clip the carabeena to this loop and let it over the side.

What you have now, starting from the sea bed, is anchor - chain - anchor rope - carabeena - painter - boat.
The very end of the anchor rope remains attached to the D-loop from the first picture. When you want to bring in the anchor you pull on the rope which first brings up the painter. Detach the carabeena, untie the overhand knot and then pull the rest of the rope up.

It’s sounds complex, but it’s pretty easy when you try it.

Hope that helps!
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Re: Anchor

Post by chris moody » 24 Mar 2019, 09:41

Great description from @ChrisParish

A couple of extra points:

The last bit of anchor warp from the loop to the d ring inside the boat should always be slack, you need the load to be being taken through the painter (bow line).

The Alpine Butterfly knot is preferable to the overhand knot to make the loop as the overhand knot can prove difficult to undo once it has been pulled and tugged on by the anchor and boat. The Alpine Butterfly will always undo easily.

As Chris P says it is all much easier to do in practice than to describe in words.
ChrisParish wrote: ↑
24 Mar 2019, 08:56
The end of your anchor rope needs to be fastened to the d-loops inside the bow of your boat:
26B0FA4A-9D28-4F53-93B0-12E0CAEED222.jpeg

When you deploy the anchor you want it to be attached to the handle under the bow:

D0B9FBFE-9E7E-4A1A-A87C-E94D732CD90F.jpeg

The way I do this is I have a carabeena attached to the end of the painter (the blue rope that comes attached to the bow handle when you buy the boat). When I have let out my anchor rope to the length I want I tie a loop in the anchor rope using an overhand knot like this:
840E234D-59A0-4118-B77B-FDA7B01ADE50.jpeg

Then I clip the carabeena to this loop and let it over the side.

What you have now, starting from the sea bed, is anchor - chain - anchor rope - carabeena - painter - boat.
The very end of the anchor rope remains attached to the D-loop from the first picture. When you want to bring in the anchor you pull on the rope which first brings up the painter. Detach the carabeena, untie the overhand knot and then pull the rest of the rope up.

It’s sounds complex, but it’s pretty easy when you try it.

Hope that helps!
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Re: Anchor

Post by ChrisParish » 24 Mar 2019, 09:45

chris moody wrote: ↑
24 Mar 2019, 09:41
Great description from @ChrisParish
The Alpine Butterfly knot is preferable to the overhand knot to make the loop as the overhand knot can prove difficult to undo once it has been pulled and tugged on by the anchor and boat. The Alpine Butterfly will always undo easily.
I almost mentioned the butterfly knot, but couldn’t remember what it’s called! I know how to tie it. I had it in my head it was called the “Swiss” something or other. I was close! :thud :cheers
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Re: Anchor

Post by Cumbria » 24 Mar 2019, 13:50

Thx ,

Assume only on of the d ropes in the boat.

Then loose to front painter , attach a carabeena (cant spell)

When deployed use a knot to ensure its not tight at the boat only at the painter.

D ring to painter always loose and used to retreave anchor .

Anything I need to do other than chuck said anchor with chain over board when need to .

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Re: Anchor

Post by chris moody » 24 Mar 2019, 14:33

The main key points are:

Make sure you deploy enough anchor chain and warp. I use five to six times the depth, so in 2.5 metres of water I’d be using 15m of warp and chain. In 4m of water I’d put out 24m

Lay the warp and chain out in a straight line as you drift backwards. A lot of people just dump it all over the side in a pile on the seabed and expect it to sort itself out. It usually doesn’t sort itself out and they just drag along the seabed.

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Cumbria wrote: ↑
24 Mar 2019, 13:50
Thx ,

Assume only on of the d ropes in the boat.

Then loose to front painter , attach a carabeena (cant spell)

When deployed use a knot to ensure its not tight at the boat only at the painter.

D ring to painter always loose and used to retreave anchor .

Anything I need to do other than chuck said anchor with chain over board when need to .
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Re: Anchor

Post by Froglet » 25 Mar 2019, 08:34

Excellent posts there. I was wondering how to adjust how much rope to put out with the anchor and was coming up with all sorts of complex (and probably failure prone) ideas. I didn't even consider putting a loop in the rope. I'm still trying to teach myself a few good knots and the alpine butterfly is a totally new one on me. Never seen that before and looks perfect. Thanks. :thumbsup

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