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Postby Si Crowe » 14 Feb 2018, 11:15

There has been alot of chat about what to wear in a sib. Dry Suit, Waders, Wet Suit...
well i thought i'd share what ive just bought. i decided that alot of the specialist stuff was over priced so i looked to my other hobby for ideas. Motorbikes....

i've just had delivered a 1 piece rain suit. ive used these at 100mph plus and not got wet so in a 15mph sib i think it will fit the bill...
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the fit is over size to accomodate leathers so a few warm layers under will work a treat, welly boots.. and life jacket on the top. it's light but lined and breathable oh, and only £25 delivered...
ok, it's not a full on "dry suit" but... better than nowt.
could be of use to someone.
If it has t*ts, tyres or floats......it's gonna cost ya!
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Re: spray suit...

Postby Martin » 15 Feb 2018, 00:34

Bargain that Si :thumbsup
The flotation suits that sports direct were selling last year were a real bargain.
Again, not a full on wet suit but pretty nifty for the money - never worn mine yet though I always have it with me in case of a turn in the weather.
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Re: spray suit...

Postby Steuk60 » 15 Feb 2018, 08:51

I wouldn’t wan to open another “can o worms” but for me, I’ll be buying a dry suit at my earliest opportunity before I launch my sib this year, after all I’ve read, and videos I’ve watched, it has scared the hell out of me!
Okay, a lot of specialist stuff can seem pretty expensive, but after the cost of a sib, outboard, all the add ons, fishfinders,vhf radios, gps, the list goes on! Surely you need to calculate all that against potentially saving your life?
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Re: spray suit...

Postby Martin » 15 Feb 2018, 09:57

No can of worms buddy, everyone is entitled to their opinion.
This is a discussion forum and everyone has different takes on how things should be done.. never feel afraid of posting your opinions on here :thumbsup
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Re: spray suit...

Postby Steuk60 » 15 Feb 2018, 11:25

As far as I’m concerned, it’s safety 1st, and safety last. The in between won’t matter if your not going to see your next birthday. Stewart..
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Re: spray suit...

Postby Si Crowe » 15 Feb 2018, 16:04

safety is paramount agreed but still.... calculated risk and thrill is why i love my hobbies. i do find people get soooo bogged down in safety that i wonder if the thrill and fun is there still...

the spray suit isn't for crossing the Atlantic, it's to keep the spray off me when i'm in my 2.4m tender doing ship to shore duties for a beer... :cheers
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Postby Andy B » 15 Feb 2018, 16:19

Si Crowe wrote: i do find people get soooo bogged down in safety that i wonder if the thrill and fun is there still...
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Re: spray suit...

Postby chris moody » 15 Feb 2018, 19:22

I think the key thing is awareness of the risks. I have been out boating multiple times every month right through the winter so far (and out again on the 1st and 2nd March). I have not worn my drysuit at all so far this winter, but I have thought about what clothing is appropriate for the conditions, location, and the type of vessel I am in, on every single outing. In each case so far I considered a drysuit was not necessary as the risk of me entering the water was negligible. It's all about being aware of the levels of risk you are taking. If I thought there was any likelihood of me entering the water in February I'd definitely be togged up in my drysuit.
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Re: spray suit...

Postby Captain cod » 15 Feb 2018, 19:31

I don't see where the argument is. Would anyone ride a motorbike at 100mph in just a pair of shorts? No you would wear leathers, boots and a helmet then ride at 100mph and have all the fun you want. The same applies to boating have the necessary safety equipment in place. Then go and enjoy yourselves. You still have just as bigger thrill and as much fun with the safety equipment as you would without it. So why not have it ??

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Re: spray suit...

Postby DouglasW » 15 Feb 2018, 21:59

Great suit Si, I got a very similar motorbike suit last spring from our local Aldi but paid £10 more than you... :) :) I used it for fishing from my F-Rib in the rain in the miserable summer we had last year! Very effective it was too.

Si>[url]calculated risk and thrill is why i love my hobbies[/url]

I could not agree more with Si, I love the thrill of windsurfing, sea kayaking in tide races, rock climbing, ice climbing, winter mountaineering (The Gurnard and I have been going to the mountains together for the best part of 50 years) skiing, snowboarding, mountain biking on black Galloway rock routes, and of course motor boats and when I was younger motor bikes.

Most people would probably say rock climbing was the most risky and that motor boats were the least risky of my activities.

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I took this photo when rock climbing in Skye with my long time climbing partner John, with whom I climbed for 40 years. Sadly John died in a climbing accident 4 years ago on Ben Nevis leaving 4 sons, the youngest of whom was 6y.

This has probably reinforced most people's idea that rock climbing is one of the most dangerous sports but is it? The British Journal of Sports Medicine Volume 39 Issue 8 published an article by Gabbe et al which reported the Incidence of serious injury and death during sport and recreation activities in Australia from 2001 to 2003. Motor boating was the most common cause of death and as a result most sport/recreation related deaths were due to drowning. The risk of death from motor boating per person per year was 4.8 times the risk of death from rock climbing. In comparison with kayaking and wind surfing, the risk of death from motor boating was 17 times higher than each. There were no deaths from sail boats in the period studied.

In 2016 in the USA there were 701 deaths from recreational boats, almost all from drowning and the biggest single group was from small motor boats. (In the UK the number was 104 drowned). So to make an informed decision about what to wear when boating in cold water, you need to know the facts.

I like the fact the Chris does a risk assessment about the risks of falling into the water before he goes boating each time. I have no doubt that he is making informed decisions and imparting those decision making processes to those he is training. The danger of falling into cold water cannot be overstated. The National Centre for Cold Water Safety in the USA warns of the dangers of cold shock if you fall overboard:
With very few exceptions, immersion in cold water is immediately life-threatening if you’re not wearing thermal protection like a wetsuit or drysuit. The biggest danger is inhaling water and drowning - even if the water is flat calm and you know how to swim.


Unfortunately a risk assessment can be more difficult on a multi day trip, especially if you have not considered all the options/necessary gear before you set off. Part of the thrill of going on a small open boat (or kayaking) camping trip is that the weather can change once you are in a committed location. A change in the weather can greatly increase your chance of falling out of a boat.

Have fun and be safe especially in winter and spring :)

Douglas

PS Captain Cod when I was in my teens I used to ride my motorbike in shorts and t shirt at 70mph in the summer hot days. In my defence I did wear a helmet which was not compulsory when I started. However I stopped wearing shorts and T shirt when I was 20. My motorbiking friend Hamish crashed in Glencoe and ended up with a below knee amputation after multiple operations. Only then did I carry out a risk assessment and make an informed choice about what to wear.
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