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Re: Hi from Staffordshire

Post by chris moody » 09 Dec 2017, 12:11

Pros and cons for both types of Sib floor. Personally the ease of inflating / deflating of the air floor is a winner in my book, but others will prefer the slatted floor. It's all down to personal preference.
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Post by The Hobbit » 09 Dec 2017, 20:18

Paul B wrote:
Stoksey25 wrote:What sort of speed would you be looking at with the max of 15hp on the back?
My T32. With the 15 hp on the back hits close to 25mph with me in it and I’m no lightweight eithe :lol:
My T38 with a Yamaha 15hp 2 smoker does 24 mph with my lardy arse in it and 30 litres of fuel and a fat boys lunch :drive :shame :clappy
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Post by Martin » 09 Dec 2017, 20:39

Stoksey25 wrote:The other question is the difference in hulls or floors. What is the actual difference ?

Thanks Neil
Here's one of the first posts on the forum from a few years ago that explains pretty well all the designs of air-floors available
http://f-ribsandsibs.com/viewtopic.php? ... p=106#p106 :Link
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Post by Stoksey25 » 10 Dec 2017, 10:22

That's great thanks I understand now. Is the air floor still ok for standing on . What pressures do they get inflated to?

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Post by Paul B » 10 Dec 2017, 11:20

Stoksey25 wrote:That's great thanks I understand now. Is the air floor still ok for standing on . What pressures do they get inflated to?
Yes you can stand on them no problem, the Honwave is blown up,to 0.8 Bar compared to the tubes at 0.25 if I remember correctly,
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Post by chris moody » 10 Dec 2017, 11:47

Yes, the air floors are solid once blown up to the correct pressure (0.8 bar / 12 psi for the Honwave).
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Post by chris moody » 10 Dec 2017, 11:55

CE plate showing Honwave tube and floor pressures

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Re: Hi from Staffordshire

Post by Andy B » 10 Dec 2017, 15:43

Just to add some balance to the discussion.

Me personally, I prefer the solid floor in my Zodiac.
I find the flat floor a bonus.
It makes it a lot easier to move around the boat, and things like my fuel tank are fixed to the deck and don't bounce around.
My floor is not sloped like the high pressure V hulled boats, so if i do take any water it sits under the floor boards not in a puddle in the middle of the floor where my feet would be!
I have a hand bilge pump that takes the water from under the deck boards making my boat a very dry boat...

Yes the down side is weight.
I have 2 bags to transport not one, and setup time is possibly 5 minutes longer than with the "wind bags" :D
But i will say that on the water the extra weight makes for a more stable craft.
Having been out in V floors, i find that they more prone to bow rise during acceleration and they do tend to get caught by the wind.

The V floors are faster.
If inflated correctly the hull is very solid where as on my boat the hull skin between the tubes and the keel will deform slightly which increases drag...
And also the power to weight ratio is in favor of the V floors

At the end of the day it's down to personal preference?
If you want a boat that's easy to transport and set up? Then the high pressure floor is probably the right choice.
If you require a boat that's a more stable platform when on the water and you don't mind a little extra effort transporting and setting up then maybe a boat with deck boards is more suited to your needs.

And as a final note,
If you're planing on doing some fishing then i would strongly recommend the decked boats.
Dealing with fish on a sloped V floor and worrying about hooks?
just a thought???
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Re: Hi from Staffordshire

Post by Paul B » 10 Dec 2017, 17:29

The V floor on the Honwave isn’t that bad especially at the stern, and as for hooks, you are just as likely to stick a hook in a tube as you are the floor,

Yes they can lift the bow on the hole shot, but most sibs will do that anyway, and a pair of wings soon sorts that out, personally I think the airfloor is a much more forgiving ride and very capable in the rough stuff
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Re: Hi from Staffordshire

Post by Andy B » 10 Dec 2017, 19:01

Paul B wrote:as for hooks, you are just as likely to stick a hook in a tube as you are the floor
This of course is true, but with a solid floor it's one less thing to worry about.
And in the confined space of a SIB it's easy for things to get dropped and end up under foot!

Anyway,
This is not an argument about who's got the best sib :D
Just a discussion about the Pro's & Con's of different types of boat
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