Honda Transom Wheels bit of a joke! Roll out the Rollers!

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Re: Honda Transom Wheels bit of a joke! Roll out the Rollers

Post by Jakeyboy » 14 Nov 2017, 20:53

Yep i will second that my genuine ones have done exactly the same with minimal use ! Crap!
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Re: Honda Transom Wheels bit of a joke! Roll out the Rollers

Post by Paul » 14 Nov 2017, 21:55

It's been a few years since I purchased and fitted these type of wheels to a trim-tab sib but I've done some digging and come up with the following information :|

Possibly you've been sold the inferior brackets at the heavy duty price. I believe the genuine Honda part number is 06427-ZV5-T01HE (heavy duty) and 06427-ZV5-T50HE (light duty 100kgs max)

There are light duty and heavy duty brackets out there such as these rated up to 100kg rating http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LIGHT-DUTY-In ... 283efbc0f3 You'll know they are inferior if the brackets to the transom bolts supplied are M4 size if I remember correctly :idea:

The heavy duty ones are like these http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Inflatable-Bo ... 283eae05d0 the bracket bolts are M6 or M8 AFAIK.

As said it's been a few years and the info/part numbers may be out of date :Confused
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Re: Honda Transom Wheels bit of a joke! Roll out the Rollers

Post by kaman » 14 Nov 2017, 21:59

Having bought Martins old T3.8 I can vouch for the quality of the after market transom wheels he fitted.
They have managed to handle the weight of my lardy Tohatsu 20hp 4 stroke no worries.
In fact if anything it's been the actual wheels / tyres that have caused a little grief on soft sand and shingle due to their small diameter.
I recently modified a set of launch trolley wheels that I had lying around idle so that they would fit the wheel legs / hubs.
They work much better on soft beaches but are harder to affix when coming ashore due to them being more buoyant tha their smaller counterparts.
I'm gonna use the small wheels where i know they are suitable but change them for the larger ones where needed.
As everything boaty it's what suits best.
I'm gonna have to buy a set of those inflatable rollers too as you never know when they could get you out of a pickle :mrgreen:
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Re: Honda Transom Wheels bit of a joke! Roll out the Rollers

Post by Paul » 14 Nov 2017, 22:08

kaman wrote:Having bought Martins old T3.8 I can vouch for the quality of the after market transom wheels he fitted.
They have managed to handle the weight of my lardy Tohatsu 20hp 4 stroke no worries.
Kaman
I'm sure they're the ones I listed above as I seem to remember giving Martin the link ....... prehaps he'll confirm :idea: and yeah the rollers are very handy back-up :thumbsup
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Re: Honda Transom Wheels bit of a joke! Roll out the Rollers

Post by kaman » 14 Nov 2017, 22:23

Hi Paul.
Dunno how to identify the sturdier transom wheels from their part number but this is a close-ish pic of them.
I have seen the lighter rated ones on Ebay etc and they do look less robust.
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Re: Honda Transom Wheels bit of a joke! Roll out the Rollers

Post by Paul » 14 Nov 2017, 22:45

Kaman
Yeah they look the same :thumbsup
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The wall thickness of the tubing was 0.5-1mm thicker on the HD ones and transom bolts M6 or bigger :idea:
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Re: Honda Transom Wheels bit of a joke! Roll out the Rollers

Post by Martin » 14 Nov 2017, 22:50

Memory recall...
I couldn’t get the ones you gave me the link for Paul, they were out of stock.. I did show you the alternatives I found and you said yes “they’re the ones”
Pretty sure they came from Gael force but I will double check.
From memory,mine were 8mm bolts and the tubing was far thicker than the ones PaulB previously had fitted to his t32.. those being floppy Honda ones that he’s since replaced due to the same problems as this original post.
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Re: Honda Transom Wheels bit of a joke! Roll out the Rollers

Post by Mitch » 14 Nov 2017, 23:01

I recently found the same problem where the wheels were tilting over making it difficult to pull/push the sib. When I looked at them I found the holes for the pins in the tubes & brackets elongated & the wheels where they fit onto the tubes were oval due to the plastic of the wheels against metal of the tubes. With the wheels I put brass shims of about .008 thou between the plastic & the tubes which has taken out the play in the wheels, this should work but will have to change the brass shims every year, if i t doesn’t then I’ll try some wheels from screwfix which have bearings inside. When checking the tubes to brackets I found the holes were elongated because the pins are harder than the tubes, the pins were 6.5mm in dia so I drilled the tubes & brackets out to 7mm and replaced the pins with brass ones so the pins should wear but not the tubes or brackets, again this means I will probably have to change the pins on a yearly basis, if this doesn’t work then I’ll look at welding thicker/harder tubes on the legs and brackets, it seems a bit of messing around but I’ve got the time to do it & its a lot cheaper than buying new unrated wheels, & I know if I sort it myself they will last.
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Re: Honda Transom Wheels bit of a joke! Roll out the Rollers

Post by The Hobbit » 15 Nov 2017, 06:34

kaman wrote:They work much better on soft beaches but are harder to affix when coming ashore due to them being more buoyant tha their smaller counterparts.
Ha I was wrestling with mine for ages trying to get them back on in the drink, everyone had almost gone home by the time I got them on, floating all other the place they were!!!! There must be a knack to it!! :lol: :drive :LMT
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Re: Honda Transom Wheels bit of a joke! Roll out the Rollers

Post by Jimthehook » 15 Nov 2017, 09:20

Thanks everyone for all the helpful replies, I'm glad its not just me!!! I cant help but think if it was square box for the legs this wouldnt happen but I guess that wouldnt enable the stowed position to be achieved. Anyway I will send a video to the vendor after work today and see where we go from there!!. Shame I didn't find this site till after my purchase!!!

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