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Advice please on new outboard

Post by pritch » 09 Feb 2018, 16:23

Hi,
To cut a long story short I won this outboard on ebay. After traveling a 7hr round trip to collect it ,to my horror it was geared up for remotes. No tiller,no gear lever,no pull start. The advert stated ' 2003 four stroke Mercury 15hp tiller outboard' .
After telling him how annoyed i was and out of pocket I offered him £350 which he declined. 10mins into the home journey he called me and excepted .
Just a few questions if you don't mind.
Are Mercury a decent manufacturer?
Is it worth locating a tiller and gear selector or should i sell it on ?
Is £350 a good price the way it is?
Its an electric start.........do i need to carry around a large battery to start it ? should i convert to a pull start and is it difficult?
I'm shocked how heavy it is compared to my 15hp Yamaha 2 stroke. My 2 stroke was just about manageable but this is forklift truck territory :thud I don't know how you old boys manage :thumbsup
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Re: Advice please on new outboard

Post by James » 09 Feb 2018, 17:10

My mate had a 1974 Johnson. Converting it to a tiller was a nightmare as it was cog driven and not cable.
I think you'd have to carry a battery round with you, but dont hold me to that. I can't remember if Pauls has a push start button on it. If you do have to carry a battery, I'd probably sell it for profit.

Before you do anything though, check the compression and make sure it is in working order.
Then have a look at how you can convert it to a tiller. You may it's not a cheap route to take
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Re: Advice please on new outboard

Post by pritch » 09 Feb 2018, 17:26

Hi,
Yes just checking on parts and they do look expensive . Looks like most would have to be ordered from the USA.
After traveling that far i just decided to take a punt.

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Re: Advice please on new outboard

Post by Paul B » 09 Feb 2018, 17:47

I’d be putting it back up for sale, and hopefully you can earn a little extra money back on it,
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Re: Advice please on new outboard

Post by Andy B » 10 Feb 2018, 10:34

Paul B wrote:I’d be putting it back up for sale, and hopefully you can earn a little extra money back on it,
What he said.
If you were closer i would take it of your hands. Did it come with the remotes?
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Re: Advice please on new outboard

Post by pritch » 10 Feb 2018, 18:09

Hi
No remotes unfortunately .
Its the ' big foot' model and the ones I have seen look quite expensive. I have also found out it's a long shaft :(
7 hr drive to pick up a short shaft tiller outboard and arrive home with a long shaft outboard that requires remotes and weighs 58kg :oops:
I also have a bunch of cables that I need to work out what goes where to get it started. :roll:

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Re: Advice please on new outboard

Post by Andy B » 10 Feb 2018, 20:29

Hmmm! the long shaft bit is a bit of a kick in the nuts!
Unfortunately there isn't so much of a market for them at this HP range.
Some SIB's and small RIB's do require a long shaft, but they aren't common.


The good news is that at least it's a 4stroke, all be it an early one.
which means that there will be a market for it on inland water ways...
(Traditional river boats and small hard boats quite often take a long shaft.)

As i see it there's not much point converting it to tiller steer with it being long shaft.

So you have 2 options,
Option 1
Wait a couple of months and then sell it.
(This would be my choice.)

You'd have no problems selling the engine for around the £600 mark, maybe more?
This would of course depend on the the condition and running order of the engine????
Did you get the opportunity to see it running before you bought it?

Option 2
Buy something to fit the engine too.
This option would require some more financial outlay, but could prove to be more profitable...

Boats that are sold without engines, are quite often quite cheap!
And if you're lucky they come with the controls (steering and remotes) already in place.

Any sort of "turn key package" (depending on condition) is always going to be worth a minimum of £1500.

Just some food for thought....
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Re: Advice please on new outboard

Post by pritch » 10 Feb 2018, 20:49

Hi Andy
Thanks for the reply.
There was no way we could start it. He had no remotes and it came off his dad's boat and he really didn't have a clue. A bit like me :D
Are remotes compatible with other outboards or do you have to get Mercury remotes?
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Re: Advice please on new outboard

Post by Andy B » 10 Feb 2018, 22:22

Most remotes can be made to work as long as you have the right cables.

But if you are just planning on selling on then all you'll need is a 12v battery and a momentary switch for the starter.

Sounds like you took a bit of a punt on this, hope it pays off ;-)

Like i said earlier, it's a shame you're not closer......
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Re: Advice please on new outboard

Post by pritch » 11 Feb 2018, 18:51

Hi
I managed to download a work shop manual which had a wiring diagram. There were about ten wires with the ends cut off so I was a bit worried but with the wiring diagram and being an electrician I soon sorted it and had it turning over with strong sparks to both plugs. I did a compression test and it was coming out around 125 psi on both cylinders so I reckon she's a goer.
I'm just waiting for the mercury fuel line adaptor so I can get some fuel in her.
I also need to respray the lower half because the paint as flaked off where it looks like its been left in the salt for a while.

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